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unknown cyl.-head noise
Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 3:35 pm
by Werner
Hello CBXers,
I have a '79 CB1, and notice a metallic sound noise on the left side cylinderhead. Sounds like loud valve clicking. Depends a little of temperature. Specialle when engine is cold or very hot. Valve clearings, cam and chain are ok. Y have already changed the cam couplers/conectors.
Has anyone an idea or experience with this special problem ?
Maybe cam bearing, spring, valve-seat ??
Thanks for your opinion !
Werner, Munich, Germany
Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 5:17 pm
by RIPPER
Oldham couplers,replace with cbxbilly's after market UK
Valve Clicking
Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 3:54 am
by EMS
Hallo Werner:
Bist Du sicher da? es nicht von der Lima kommt?
answer to reply
Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 6:15 pm
by Werner
Hello and thanks for your opinions !
What is the website of CBX Billy ?
I would like to check that.
But I have doubt, that the olfham couplers is the problem. The parts I
already changed, were Honda genuine parts. Maybe they are less good,
but they fitted well, without significant clearance. (nearly zero)
to the other (german) reply:
No, its not the generator. The noise remains to the cyl.-head.
(but I never have checked the generator-bearing, I never recognized
the known problem...)
By the way, some people on cbx meetings didn't have ideas, too.
Werner
Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 8:21 pm
by RIPPER
The Honda replacements have the same problem as the originals,the aftermarket are slightly larger and are a pressure fit (put them in the freezer for a couple of days).Go to Tims Bulletin Board and ask for cbxbill to get in touch for oldham couplers or ask on the UC Davis CBX list.if you need these sites email me direct at
cbxxx@webtv.net and I'll send them to you.
Noise
Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 8:35 pm
by EMS

Not the alternator,

valves adjusted,

cam chain O.K., you may have named the culprit, Ripper

. I installed a set of oversized Oldham couplers on my 79 CBX and they did make a difference. :)
top end noise......
Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 3:18 pm
by sr71cbx
Werner,
Have any of your cam caps loosened?

Check all the bolts for loosening or breakage,this will set up a hideous racket on top if so.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:40 am
by RIPPER
Go to TIMS BBS now,JCBX is advertising oversize Oldhams now!
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 11:02 am
by andy
Have you checked the praggle shaft? It had me stumped when I first got my CBX.

Praggle Shaft
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 1:41 pm
by EMS
Abdy: what did you do with the praggle shaft?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:17 pm
by andy
Just needed the carbon blown out
Noise
Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 7:31 am
by EMS
Andy:
Did you have to re-adjust the piston return springs? And how about the double-clutch retainer?
Thanks for opinions
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:10 am
by Werner
Hello all,
thanks for your replies,
(the cam holders are fastend. I had to get out the cams before to fix a loosen cyl main bolt in the crankshaft case.
The rare sound was before and after this repair.
While fixing that, I replaced the couplers (genuine), but no difference..)
It really sounds like loud valve noise. "click click click..."
Best to hear when idling.
Its not so problematic, but we all like 6 cylinders running like a "swiss clock"...
So, its seems that I should check the couplers one more time...
Thanks for all replies
Werner
and here we are...
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:20 pm
by jdeatsch
praggle shaft, piston return springs, indeed!
My other bike is a 100" V twin (I know, I know) that I'm building. My wife walks out into the garage the other day as I'm fussing and fuming over the primary drive setup (yes, it's non-unit construction) {THE ENGLISH GAVE UP ON NON UNIT in the SEVENTIES for crying out loud} and trying to figure out the 'starter jackshaft' (their name for the starter bendix affair) and I'm mumbling about the fac that I'm building a bike which will be registered as a 2003 but built on 1903 technology.
Understand that this is my first non-metric scooter. While it's been a few years since I've owned and ridden a street bike (say 1975 or so) I decided to get back into bikes when I got bored with the street rods I was into for a number of years. I figured I might as well build a large displacement V twin on accounta it's gonna be fun. Not loud, just fun.
At any rate, the praggle shaft deal reminded me of a Road and Track article from years gone by that called out a reason for an F1 car exiting a given race. Whilst I don't remember the marque or the race I do remember the 'cause'.
Dead Framastat.
Apparently they (R&T) didn't really know the cause for the endit of the machinenenen so they went with the framastat becoming decesed.
I do love it so.
Jim
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:45 pm
by Britt Bike
What do you mean "...gave up on the non unit"? Once you achieve perfection you've nothing left but to move on to something else. :)